Gold Coast CPD · Nova Mentis Clinic forum · ~53.5 min · Otter transcript

Managing depression and psychosis: treatment-resistant depression pathway and antipsychotic care for GPs

A GP-facing summary of the depression/psychosis half of a Nova Mentis Clinic education evening — verifying true treatment resistance, SWITCH/augment/escalate options including E C T, T M S and esketamine, plus metabolic monitoring, extrapyramidal side effects, clozapine red flags and relapse prevention.

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Primary speakers
Dr Sanoop Jacob Mammon (consultant psychiatrist, Nova Mentis Clinic) — treatment-resistant / difficult-to-treat depression, antidepressants, psychotherapy, augmentation, E C T / T M S / esketamine. Dr Kartika Johnson (consultant psychiatrist, Nova Mentis Clinic) — antipsychotic management for GPs, metabolic monitoring, E P S, clozapine, relapse prevention. Hosted by Fran (Nova Mentis).
Session context
Otter id RCvSxWYhbA4_v62Qnsu6HIk9tM8 · title Managing Depression and Psychosis · ~53.5 min (3213 s) · recorded 2026-09-19 (same Nova Mentis evening as the ADHD forum). ASR is imperfect — drug names and doses in Otter are often garbled; phrase cautiously and verify product info / PBS before prescribing.

Key messages for GPs

Five-step incomplete response pathway Dr Mammon — incomplete response pathway 1. Verify illness 2. Optimise + therapy 3. Switch agent 4. Augment if partial 5. Escalate T M S / E C T
Response ≈ >50% symptom improvement; remission ≈ minimal symptoms or MADRS <10 / PHQ-9 <5 as framed.

What counts as treatment-resistant depression

Working definition used: adequate trial of two antidepressants with inadequate response in the current episode. Adequate means therapeutic dose, about six to eight weeks, and adherence. One week at a “good” dose is not a trial. Trials from old episodes do not count toward the current-episode criterion.

Worked example that is not T R D: sertraline 10 mg for four weeks (“not working”) then venlafaxine 75 mg for three weeks, PHQ-9 still 19, nightly cannabis, no psychotherapy — dose, duration, substances and missing therapy all undermine the label.

RESET and the five-step pathway

First verify: unipolar major depression vs bipolar depression; secondary/comorbid psychosis; trauma / ongoing D V; personality factors prolonging episode; substance-induced or substance-maintained symptoms; medical contributors.

RESET mnemonic (exposure / dose / duration / adherence / absorption / interactions; sleep and somatic drivers; environment/social drivers; tracking outcomes with scales if needed):

Then: optimise (including psychotherapy) → switch if no response after optimisation → consider augmentation if partial response at max dose → escalate for severity/complexity/procedures.

Matching antidepressants and psychotherapy

Trials show broadly similar efficacy across antidepressants; choose by symptom profile and tolerability (clinical preference still matters). Speaker preferences from the night — verify current product info:

Clinical leanAgents discussedCaveats from talk
Anxiety / first episodeS S R I — sertraline or escitalopram preferred over fluoxetineFluoxetine: interactions, long half-life/washout. Expect early activation, G I (~10%), sexual dysfunction (delayed ejaculation / anorgasmia) — counsel early
Low energy / chronic painS N R I (e.g. duloxetine, venlafaxine)Venlafaxine can raise B P — avoid defaulting when hypertension already present
Insomnia + low appetiteMirtazapineSedation at lower doses; appetite increase persists — adherence risk if body-image sensitive
Cognitive symptoms / poor toleranceVortioxetine (Brintellix)Not PBS-subsidised as framed; private cost ~$75/box cited
Reversed sleep rhythmAgomelatine (Valdoxan)Baseline and on-escalation L F Ts — hepatotoxicity risk; many referrals lack L F Ts
Older adults / polypharmacyEscitalopram often favouredS S R I / S N R I → S I A D H / hyponatraemia; all ADs small QTc effect

Psychotherapy: alone for mild; ± meds for moderate; meds first-line for severe; psychotic depression needs meds (± antipsychotic). Match modality (C B T, interpersonal, trauma-informed / psychodynamic) to presentation. Refer psychology early.

Switch, augment, escalate

Older staging wanted different classes for T R D; newer framing: two adequate trials of any class can meet criteria — but clinically many still move S S R I → S N R I / agomelatine / mirtazapine rather than a second S S R I. Cross-taper with specialist input preferred if rapid; ideal is reduce ~50%, wait ~five half-lives, start next low. Australian Prescriber A3 antidepressant switching chart mentioned as a resource.

Augmentation (off-label for depression as monotherapy): low-dose antipsychotics (aripiprazole, quetiapine, olanzapine — not antipsychotic target doses); lithium (target levels framed ~0.4–0.8, lower than full bipolar); low-dose T3. T C A / M A O I and procedural treatments → specialist.

Escalate urgently / early

High/escalating suicide risk, psychosis, catatonia, serious self-neglect / emaciation, mania/mixed states, suspected bipolarity, complex comorbidity, need for T C A / M A O I or procedures. Referral letter: formulation + each trial’s drug, dose, duration, adherence — otherwise psychiatry restarts from scratch.

E C T, T M S, esketamine and emerging options

After two failed adequate trials Third oral agent ~10% chance cited T M S / E C T / specialist higher yield in T R D
Numbers are speaker teaching from the night — not a substitute for individual specialist judgement.

Antipsychotics in primary care

Dr Johnson: GPs provide continuity — check what they take and how, metabolic health, early warning signs, and action against a shared crisis plan. Assess preference and smoking status (induces some APs). First-episode psychosis guidelines (2026 Great Pathway framed): prefer partial dopamine agonists (aripiprazole, brexpiprazole, cariprazine, or similar PBS-approved options — ASR garbled some names) when suitable. Review ~two weeks for tolerability/early response; consider switch by ~2–4 weeks if no/partial response or intolerable effects. Clozapine earlier rather than “last resort forever” if non-response — earlier may allow smaller effective doses.

Every review: name/dose/formulation/depot timing; “is it helping?” (insight); function and sleep; missed doses; five side-effect domains — weight, sedation, E P S, anticholinergic, sexual; red flags.

E P S, metabolic monitoring and clozapine

Metabolic monitoring: baseline before start/switch/add — weight, B M I, waist, B P, fasting or random glucose, lipids, plus F B C, U&E, L F Ts, prolactin, E C G as relevant. Early weeks: weight/waist/B P; sugars ~four weeks. Repeat bloods ~three months then annually if stable; more often if abnormal. Discuss weight, diet, exercise, metformin/other agents early — weight gain drives cessation.

E P S typeTimingClues / action from talk
Acute dystoniaHoursPainful sustained contractions, oculogyric crisis, torticollis, dysphagia → urgent care / E D; benztropine injection
AkathisiaDays–weeksInner restlessness, pacing; suicide risk if ignored. Reduce other contributors / lower AP / propranolol or short B Z D / switch
ParkinsonismWeeks–monthsBradykinesia, rigidity, masked facies, tremor → dose review, switch, psychiatry
Tardive dyskinesiaMonths–yearsRepetitive orobuccolingual / limb movements → specialist (± neurology); clozapine consideration. Do not abruptly switch APs in primary care alone
Clozapine red flags → emergency

Fever, infection, chest pain, shortness of breath, persistent tachycardia, severe constipation / abdominal pain, seizures, confusion. Missed doses ≥2 days: do not restart prior dose — clozapine central line / psychiatrist / acute care; >72 h usually needs hospital re-titration.

Also check bowel habit (laxatives), hypersalivation coping, metabolic health, adherence to monthly bloods.

Relapse prevention and when to refer

Early warning signs (family / N D I S workers often spot first): withdrawal, reduced outings, insomnia, irritability/argumentativeness, rising self-neglect. Ask specifically about missed doses day-by-day. Ideal psychiatry letter: drug/dose/formulation/timing; target symptoms; monitoring plan; side-effect escalation triggers; who prescribes; crisis/relapse plan.

Q&A: long-term benztropine from public discharges may have been intended short-term — review need; dry mouth may improve with dose reduction; alternatives like low-dose promethazine discussed cautiously; persistent E P S may mean changing the antipsychotic, not endless anticholinergic.

Related on allcpd: Adult ADHD assessment (same evening) · Psychology clinic referral · Cognitive assessment

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